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CAS correspondence
Posted by: wilum pugmire (IP Logged)
Date: 12 November, 2015 04:53PM
Ye poftman just brought ye newest mailing of ye Esoteric Order of Dagon apa, and I noticed this in ye mailing by David E. Schultz:

"I would like to start working up volumes of letters of Clark Ashton Smith. Primarily his correspondence with [a] August Derleth, [b] Donald Wandrei and R. H. Barlow, and [c] Samuel Loveman. The Derleth group covers a long period and discussion covers everything, starting initially with the usual circulation of stories for comment and current contents of the pulp magazines, but over time adding a 'business' aspect as Derleth became Smith's publisher. The other bunches contain much discussion of poetry, since the writers were themselves poets.At this date, only the Barlow letters are annotated, as that book was once intended for Necronomicon Press. It would have made a nice booklet. All the necessary letters are typed, so all that remains is the usual annotation. I remember these (dimly) as being quite interesting, for the poets wrote not only about their own work but also about the poets they liked and read (or not)."

"I'm a little girl."
--H. P. Lovecraft, Esq.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: jdworth (IP Logged)
Date: 13 November, 2015 12:22AM
While I find Smith's letters in and of themselves generally of less interest than Lovecraft's, this is by no means always the case, and as far as information goes, I most fervently hope such a project can be pushed through to completion. As for the discussions with other poets and writers on the above... that seems (to me) to be where the most interesting aspects of CAS's correspondence lies (again, generally speaking),so definitely something to look forward to.....

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 14 November, 2015 07:44AM
I hope that S. T. Joshi (God bless him for recently taking a firm stand against political correctness targeted at Lovecraft) and David E. Schultz are inspired and still working diligently on The Letters of H. P. Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith in 2 volumes for Hippocampus Press.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: wilum pugmire (IP Logged)
Date: 14 November, 2015 02:06PM
From Dave's November offering for ye E.O.D.:
"Another big project for 2016 will be to complete--finally--the Lovecraft-Clark Ashton Smith correspondence. The rough--very rough--transcript for the book is running to 664 pages, and that does not include an index, introduction, illustrations, glossary. It appears the book may exceed 700 pages when done. The bibliography alone comes to 35 pages! Of course, it lists all of HPL's and CAS's works that are discussed, stories from WEIRD TALES, and numerous other books."

So it will be one huge volume rather than two volumes as originally planned.

"I'm a little girl."
--H. P. Lovecraft, Esq.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 14 November, 2015 04:40PM
wilum pugmire Wrote:
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> So it will be one huge volume rather than two
> volumes as originally planned.

Yes, last time he explained that "packaging" (binding, covers, cover art, etc.) can increase the price and decrease the profit quite considerably sometimes, so that one big volume may be better. That's also why they are doing the fourth Variorum Lovecraft volume (the revisions) as one huge (much bigger than any single one of the other three) volume, instead of two smaller.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 21 December, 2015 01:38PM
Latest news from Hippocampus Press (posted on FB):

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We are starting a series of annotated Clark Ashton Smith letters to individual correspondents. On deck: CAS to Wandrei & Barlow, CAS to Loveman, CAS to Derleth.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 28 April, 2016 06:09AM
Hippocampus Press posted an image of the ARC of Dawnward Spire, Lonely Hill: The Letters of H. P. Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith on FB the other day. The very tentative release date is ("possibly") December.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 29 April, 2016 01:52PM
Martinus Wrote:
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> Hippocampus Press posted an image of the ARC of
> Dawnward Spire, Lonely Hill: The Letters of H. P.
> Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith on FB the other
> day. The very tentative release date is
> ("possibly") December.


"Dawnward Spire", ... odd play with words. Doesn't sound very much like Lovecraftian humour to me.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 29 April, 2016 02:15PM
It's probably not meant to be humorous. CAS's poem "To Howard Phillips Lovecraft" includes the lines "Beyond the dawnward spires of Providence?" and "This lonely western hill of Averoigne", so I would guess it is meant as a reference to their homes.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 1 May, 2016 03:34PM
Martinus, do you, or anyone else here, have a rough idea how much more text of their correspondence can be expected in Dawnward Spire, Lonely Hill: The Letters of H. P. Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith, compared to in the Arkham House volumes of Selected Letters by Lovecraft and The Selected Letters of Clark Ashton Smith?

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 2 May, 2016 03:40AM
David Schultz mentioned on FB that there will be 239 Lovecraft items (letters and postcards) in the book; six of the letters are known only from the Arkham House Transcripts, while the rest are based on original manuscripts or photocopies. I don't have my Selected Letters at hand here, but 239 sounds like a lot more than the letters to CAS included there, and the ones in SL tend to be abridged anyway.
I don't know how many letters from CAS to HPL will be included.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 2 May, 2016 02:44PM
I have checked -- there are 88 items (presumably both letters and postcards) from HPL to CAS in Selected Letters. That still leaves 151 items that aren't in SL.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Ancient History (IP Logged)
Date: 2 May, 2016 09:28PM
Don't forget the nine postcards in Hail, Klarkash-ton!. For anyone interested in the CAS/HPL correspondence as currently published, I've got entries up on wikithulhu with abstracts for everything in the Selected Letters of HPL and CAS as well.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 29 May, 2016 04:55AM
Martinus Wrote:
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> I don't know how many letters from CAS to HPL will
> be included.

But I do now -- in his latest EOD mailing, David says that there are "perhaps only 90 pieces".

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 29 May, 2016 04:57AM
David Schultz posted the following in the Hippocampus press FB group:

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David E. Schultz
Prog report: Lead editor has completed draft of DAWNWARD SPIRE, LONELY HILL--coeditor now working on text.
Lead editor has completed draft of Smith-Wandrei-Barlow letters.
Lead editor completed a draft of the Smith-Loveman letters in December, but will proof and edit further before turning over text to co-editor.
Lead editor of Smith-Derleth correspondence working on immense bibliography for the book, has proofed Smith's half of correspondence, must proof Derleth half, and then interleave the letters into one big file. May complete this by end of June.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: wilum pugmire (IP Logged)
Date: 31 May, 2016 12:23AM
Went to S. T.'s for his Memorial Day Cook-out, & he shew'd me ye manuscript for the Lovecraft/Smith correspondence. It is huge!! The bibliography alone will probably take up fifty pages, so we expect the book to exceed 700 pages. Gonna be AMAZING! Apparently there are far more Lovecraft letters extant than there are from CAS.

"I'm a little girl."
--H. P. Lovecraft, Esq.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Ancient History (IP Logged)
Date: 15 November, 2016 05:11PM
Quick article on CAS' correspondent William Lumley: [onanunderwood5.blogspot.com]

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 17 November, 2016 04:26AM
I eagerly look forward to the Lovecraft/Smith correspondence publication!

It will be the last book (along with two others which I have yet been unable to find in the desired editions) that I will add to my personal library of science fiction, horror, and fantasy books! After that my collection will be complete, the chase will be over, and I will look for no more books! My library has become very well rounded to my particular lifetime needs. Any time left of my late life, that may then exceed (most unlikely!) reading/re-reading all of these books to full satisfaction, will exclusively be dedicated to creativity, not to further consumption of others's works.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 22 December, 2016 02:52AM
Derrick of Hippocampus Press was interviewed at Legends of Tabletop on Tuesday -- [www.legendsoftabletop.com] -- and mentioned lots of interesting forthcoming items, including the CAS letters. I am not sure which volume will be first, but they will start appearing in 2017, apparently.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Ancient History (IP Logged)
Date: 31 December, 2016 11:32AM
Okay, finally finished ONE of my projects for this year: abstracts for all of the letters in The Shadow of the Unattained are up on on Wikithulhu, and cross-referenced with the Selected Letters of Clark Ashton Smith (and other volumes of letters as appropriate). It ain't much, but it might give folks some idea of the contents...and where to find the letter they're looking for.

[www.wikithulhu.com]

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 3 January, 2017 09:38AM
The HPL/CAS correspondence is now up for pre-order: [www.hippocampuspress.com]

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 4 January, 2017 05:06AM
Martinus Wrote:
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> > I don't know how many letters from CAS to HPL
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> But I do now -- in his latest EOD mailing, David
> says that there are "perhaps only 90 pieces".


The Selected Letters of Clark Ashton Smith (Arkham House) includes 33 pieces. Not sure how many were included in Clark Ashton Smith: Letters to H. P. Lovecraft (Necronomicon Press), for I sold my copy (sometimes I regret that, because it had a few playful CAS illustrations not included in the Arkham House volume).


Martinus Wrote:
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> The HPL/CAS correspondence is now up for
> pre-order:
> [www.hippocampuspress.com]
> ected-letters/dawnward-spire-lonely-hill-the-lette
> rs-of-h.-p.-lovecraft-and-clark-ashton-smith


ORDERED! It was not out of stock, yet! Haha!
Missing out on this volume, could actually be, I am afraid, one of the great losses of my life. Reading Lovecraft's letters through the years, has been equal to having a great friendship. Here he is paired up in conversation with his unequaled literary peer, the one and only, the great, weird fiction and cosmic artist, Clark Ashton Smith! It should lead to invaluable, frank, and inspired discussions about our favorite subjects: literature and fantastic imagination. And since they are on similar levels of intelligence, there is no room for pretension, mentally unfocused relaxation, or patronizing adaptations of conversation. Each must give everything of his intellectual honesty, or fall out.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Ancient History (IP Logged)
Date: 4 January, 2017 04:58PM
Knygatin Wrote:
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> Martinus Wrote:
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> > > I don't know how many letters from CAS to HPL
> > will
> > > be included.
> >
> > But I do now -- in his latest EOD mailing,
> David
> > says that there are "perhaps only 90 pieces".
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> The Selected Letters of Clark Ashton Smith (Arkham
> House) includes 33 pieces. Not sure how many were
> included in Clark Ashton Smith: Letters to H. P.
> Lovecraft (Necronomicon Press), for I sold my copy
> (sometimes I regret that, because it had a few
> playful CAS illustrations not included in the
> Arkham House volume).
>

I have it up on wikithulhu: 44 letters, some of which crossover with the Selected Letters of CAS.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 5 January, 2017 07:05PM
Thanks Ancient History. I had no idea I lost some of the correspondence when I sold that book. But I trust all will be recovered with the new volume.

I can't think of any other of Lovecraft's correspondents, beside C. A. Smith, that would inspire an equally sympathetic and stimulating communication back and forth. (Unless Lovecraft and Smith were somewhat intimidated from respect for each other?!) The Mysteries of Time and Spirit volume, with letter to and from Donald Wandrei, was interesting in parts, ... but it was also painful to sense a growing irritation between Lovecraft and Wandrei.

Re: CAS correspondence
Posted by: Ancient History (IP Logged)
Date: 7 January, 2017 06:40AM
All good friendships have their respectful arguments; hell, that was one of the defining characteristics of Lovecraft and Robert E. Howard's correspondence, which makes for excellent reading. Lovecraft's correspondence with Derleth was also revealing, although in a different way.



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