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Contemporary weird poets worth reading?
Posted by: Oldjoe (IP Logged)
Date: 27 August, 2018 09:36AM
I've recently begun reading all of CAS' poetry, working slowly through the 3-volume set of The Complete Poetry and Translations from Hippocampus Press.

As I've been doing this, I've become curious about poets living in our own time whose work would appeal to someone who appreciates CAS' verses. I've been impressed by the work of Wade German, and have really been enjoying his own volume from Hippocampus. What I like about German is that he acknowledges CAS as an inspiration, but he's not an imitator. He has a unique voice that makes his verses worth reading on their own merits.

(For the record, I don't know Wade German and have no connection to Hippocampus Press).

I'm curious as to what other living poets readers of this forum might recommend, in terms of writers who share spiritual or thematic bonds with CAS. Any recommendations as to other poets I should be learning about?

Re: Contemporary weird poets worth reading?
Posted by: Fiendlover (IP Logged)
Date: 13 November, 2018 10:34PM
I think working your way through the poetry section at Hippocampus Press is a great place to start. Wade German is awesome as is Ann K. Schwader, K. A. Opperman, Adam Bolivar, Fred Philips, ad Michael Fantina (who just recently passed).

Re: Contemporary weird poets worth reading?
Posted by: Oldjoe (IP Logged)
Date: 17 November, 2018 10:43AM
Thanks for the suggestions!

I recently picked up the first few issues of Spectral Realms from Hippocampus, so that's given me a chance to read at least one or two things by each of the poets that you mention. Fred Philips impressed me enough that I've ordered one of his own volumes. I'm still trying to get my head around Adam Bolivar's work, but he's definitely got something interesting going on there...

It really is rewarding to discover that this particular vein of poetry has talented creators turning out new works. Poe and Smith (among others) established a vigorous tradition that deserves to live on!

Re: Contemporary weird poets worth reading?
Posted by: Sawfish (IP Logged)
Date: 18 November, 2018 11:03AM
Oldjoe Wrote:
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> Thanks for the suggestions!
>
> I recently picked up the first few issues of
> Spectral Realms from Hippocampus, so that's given
> me a chance to read at least one or two things by
> each of the poets that you mention. Fred Philips
> impressed me enough that I've ordered one of his
> own volumes. I'm still trying to get my head
> around Adam Bolivar's work, but he's definitely
> got something interesting going on there...

As a sort of teaser, could you try to characterize what you're seeing in hie work? A kind of pervasive worldview, perhaps, or a coherent mythos? Or maybe some stylistic quirks that make him stand out?

I'm asking because, while not much of a poetry fan, I have enjoyed some of Smith's verse, not so much because I can appreciate poetic nuance, but some of his verse has a truly dramatic and vivid flavor, like the well-known Shelley poem, Ozymandias.

Thanks in advance!

>
> It really is rewarding to discover that this
> particular vein of poetry has talented creators
> turning out new works. Poe and Smith (among
> others) established a vigorous tradition that
> deserves to live on!

Sawfish
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"Life is a tragedy to those who feel, a comedy to those who think."

Re: Contemporary weird poets worth reading?
Posted by: Martinus (IP Logged)
Date: 21 November, 2018 02:06PM
Oldjoe Wrote:
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> Thanks for the suggestions!
>
> I recently picked up the first few issues of
> Spectral Realms from Hippocampus, so that's given
> me a chance to read at least one or two things by
> each of the poets that you mention. Fred Philips
> impressed me enough that I've ordered one of his
> own volumes. I'm still trying to get my head
> around Adam Bolivar's work, but he's definitely
> got something interesting going on there...

This interview with Fred (a good friend of mine) was published recently: [www.witchhaunt.com]

Re: Contemporary weird poets worth reading?
Posted by: Oldjoe (IP Logged)
Date: 21 November, 2018 10:14PM
Sawfish Wrote:
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> As a sort of teaser, could you try to characterize
> what you're seeing in hie work? A kind of
> pervasive worldview, perhaps, or a coherent
> mythos? Or maybe some stylistic quirks that make
> him stand out?
>

> Thanks in advance!
>

If you're referring to my comment about the poetry of Fred Phillips, what caught my attention was his skilled treatment of narrative poetry, which is somewhat unusual within the realm of contemporary weird poetry. In my experience, many weird poets are more interested in setting a mood than telling a story. That's a fine approach for which poetry is a natural medium.

But narrative poetry can be very rewarding as well. For example, I regard CAS' "The Hashish-Eater" as being a narrative poem. Not all of Fred Phillips' poems are narrative poems, but when he tackles that form, he does so with an enviable skill. An example is his short poem "Secret Passage", which unfortunately does not appear to be available online (I read it in his "Winds from Sheol" volume from Hippocampus Press).

Re: Contemporary weird poets worth reading?
Posted by: Sawfish (IP Logged)
Date: 22 November, 2018 10:45AM
Oldjoe Wrote:
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> Sawfish Wrote:
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> > As a sort of teaser, could you try to
> characterize
> > what you're seeing in hie work? A kind of
> > pervasive worldview, perhaps, or a coherent
> > mythos? Or maybe some stylistic quirks that
> make
> > him stand out?
> >
>
> > Thanks in advance!
> >
>
> If you're referring to my comment about the poetry
> of Fred Phillips, what caught my attention was his
> skilled treatment of narrative poetry, which is
> somewhat unusual within the realm of contemporary
> weird poetry. In my experience, many weird poets
> are more interested in setting a mood than telling
> a story. That's a fine approach for which poetry
> is a natural medium.
>
> But narrative poetry can be very rewarding as
> well. For example, I regard CAS' "The
> Hashish-Eater" as being a narrative poem. Not all
> of Fred Phillips' poems are narrative poems, but
> when he tackles that form, he does so with an
> enviable skill. An example is his short poem
> "Secret Passage", which unfortunately does not
> appear to be available online (I read it in his
> "Winds from Sheol" volume from Hippocampus Press).

Great discussion!

Because I have little background in poetry, I would like to clearly grasp the idea of narrative poetry as opposed to mood-based poetry. I will offer two examples and I would like your opinion/input.

I'd see Coleridge's "Rime of he Ancient Mariner" as a narrative poem, and the afore-mentioned "Ozymandias" as a mood-based poem.

How do you see it?

Sawfish
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"Life is a tragedy to those who feel, a comedy to those who think."

Re: Contemporary weird poets worth reading?
Posted by: Oldjoe (IP Logged)
Date: 23 November, 2018 10:30AM
Sawfish Wrote:
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> Because I have little background in poetry, I
> would like to clearly grasp the idea of narrative
> poetry as opposed to mood-based poetry. I will
> offer two examples and I would like your
> opinion/input.
>
> I'd see Coleridge's "Rime of he Ancient Mariner"
> as a narrative poem, and the afore-mentioned
> "Ozymandias" as a mood-based poem.
>
> How do you see it?

Yes, I would completely agree with your classifications for "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" and "Ozymandias". And such great examples - two wonderful poems to re-visit!

It's worth noting that in my opinion, CAS wrote many more verses within the mood-based category, but he was also a master of the narrative poem, as evidenced by "The Hashish-Eater". But his mood-based pieces can be thrilling as well. Just to pick a random example, "To the Nightshade" is something weird and wonderful - sort of a sinister contrast to "Ozymandias":

http://www.eldritchdark.com/writings/poetry/601/to-the-nightshade

Re: Contemporary weird poets worth reading?
Posted by: Sawfish (IP Logged)
Date: 23 November, 2018 02:24PM
Terrific poem!

Thanks!

Sawfish
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"Life is a tragedy to those who feel, a comedy to those who think."



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