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      <title>Re: Onan on Conan</title>
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      <dc:creator>calonlan</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[Actually the Danites were almost certainly the predecessors of the &quot;little people&quot; - who were very difficult to defeat when the Iberians showed up as they had advanced weaponry and apparently fought in strange, almost dance-like movement - As to communications with the Irish, it is my opinion that the first migrations began when the Danites (or some of them at any rate) took ship to Greece rather than march across the desert in the Exodus (I actually am reasonably confident these were those whom the Egyptian histories called the Hyksos - and keep in mind, the traditional chronology of Egyptian history is very much up in the air right now) - The Danites were known to be the only Hebrews who were not terrified of the Sea - In Greece, since their primary skill was working with Gold, they established themselves for sure on Crete as the &quot;Danoi&quot; - subsequent migrations took them up through the Balkans to the North and across settling in Denmark (Danemaark) - thence to Ireland before the time of Solomon (Tara, the capitol, means &quot;stone tablet of the law&quot; in old Hebrew) - The tin trade between Ireland and Egypt resulted in an  alliance sealed by marriage between an Irish king and the Pharaoh's daughter, Scota - child of the Pharaoh's marriage to seal a treaty with the blood-thirsty Scythians - This bright girl, was very intersted in expanding her little King's domain, and initiated colonizing across the straits in the northern land that has forever had her name- &quot;Scota-lande&quot; - Scotland - this is probably the factor behind the fact that the Romans referred to the Irish as the &quot;primi scotti&quot; - or &quot;first Scots&quot; - all of which is probably more than you really wanted to know, but what the hell - where else to I get to flex my &quot;PHUD&quot; (PhD) these days -]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Onan on Conan</title>
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      <dc:creator>treycelement</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[calonlan wrote:

&gt; I wasn't aware that the Irish were thought of as
&gt; fools 

Yes. All close-knit cultural communities, and many non-close-knit ones, have a &quot;stupid&quot; out-group they make jokes about, e.g. Hindus about Sikhs, Arabs about Saudis, the Irish themselves about Kerrymen, I believe.

&gt; (except for their penchant for drunken
&gt; pugilistics) - but as a people, the residue of
&gt; Druidism still runs deep, and their capacity for
&gt; extraordinary music and poetry easily matches
&gt; their kinfolk in Wales - they are indeed an
&gt; amazing mix of their Iberian heritage blended with
&gt; people who were almost certainly Danites
&gt; (46percent of Old Irish is cognate with Hebrew) -

Yes, though some recent estimates push it higher, to 53 or 54%. King Solomon forged extensive trading links with Ancient Ireland, of course, exchanging cedar, sandalwood and myrrh for such characteristically Irish products as harps, Guinness, leprechauns, and gobshite (a rare mineral found in the Blarney Mountains).]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 05:42:07 -0600</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>treycelement</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[Previously, on the Eldritch Dark...

treycelement wrote:

&gt; Miguel de Moorcock ... Britain's
&gt; Greatest Living Author of Fantastic Fiction ...

Bollix! Moorcock's not as crap as Terry Pratchett or that other one, the rats-and-killer-slugs one

&gt; Ramsey Campbell?

Yes. Moorcock's not as crap as Terry Pratchett or Ramsey Campbell, but he's still bloody crap.

&gt; I can't agree. And even if I could, I'd still suggest Elric of Melniboné 
&gt; is a good parallel for Absquatch.

What, you mean one could see Absquatch as a sickly, sorcerously sustained albino?

&gt; Yes.

Wielding the infinitely more powerful and interesting Nietzsche as a kind of runesword?

&gt; Yes.

With CAS as his armor and Julien Gracq as, I don't know, a dagger?

&gt; Yes. Gracq is much more than a dagger, of course, but I suppose that's
&gt; appropriate, given his obscurity in Anglophonia.

We're agreed then. Albsquatch it is. 

[hr]
N.B. No elder statesmen of British horror were harmed during composition of this post. I.e., though M. Moorcock definitely IS crap, R. Campbell definitely is NOT.]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Cosmic viewpoints</title>
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      <dc:creator>calonlan</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[Knygatin Wrote:
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&gt; calonlan Wrote:
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&gt; &gt; not a choir - the Sacred Harp was a singing
&gt; method
&gt; &gt; - just plain folks getting together - very true
&gt; &gt; folk music, and ethnically authentic - of
&gt; course
&gt; &gt; they sing Hymns - so what?
&gt; 
&gt; I searched for The Sacred Harp on youtube. I got
&gt; the impression of a rather ambitious religious
&gt; choir.
&gt; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgnpJiMHJfE&amp;feature
&gt; =related

There are hundreds of small gatherings all over the country, though mainly the south, I have never seen more than 40 people in one of the 4 groups around Pigeon Forge, Tennesee - In Texas there are a couple of dozen groups - they do have an annual gathering in Henderson Texas where I presume large numbers gather - it is, as the next writer observed, a hell of a lot of fun - The system uses &quot;shape notes&quot;, in which each shape represents some note on the octave using the common &quot;do, re, me...&quot; designation - one person will be asked to &quot;raise&quot; a song - having made a choice, and designating the key note (do) - each line is sung separately - bass, tenor, alto,soprano - usually with lead line first which may be any of the four parts, though commonly the soprano line - as in &quot;do - fa, sol-da-sol would be &quot;amazing grace&quot; first 5 notes - then they do all four parts using those sounds - then sing it in English - historically much easier way to sight read if learned first - and in the early days of American Education, most music programs in the public schools used this method - now the Kodaly Method is most commonly used for sight singing- those of you who watched &quot;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&quot; will remember the hand motions that indicated the notes of the alien signal - that was Kodaly - hand flat, hand vertical thumb up, hand flat, fingers bent down at the knuckle - shape notes evolved into the heavily Protestant south from the Roman and Anglican Chant notation - &quot;O quae mutatio rerum&quot; (Latin ending to old German student drinking song)

 opening 5 notes -]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Cosmic viewpoints</title>
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      <description><![CDATA[Sounds like they are having a good time though! People of like mind and conviction strongly bonded together.]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[calonlan Wrote:
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&gt; not a choir - the Sacred Harp was a singing method
&gt; - just plain folks getting together - very true
&gt; folk music, and ethnically authentic - of course
&gt; they sing Hymns - so what?

I searched for The Sacred Harp on youtube. I got the impression of a rather ambitious religious choir.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgnpJiMHJfE&amp;feature=related]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgnpJiMHJfE&amp;feature=related[/url]]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>calonlan</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[not a choir - the Sacred Harp was a singing method - just plain folks getting together - very true folk music, and ethnically authentic - of course they sing Hymns - so what?]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Cosmic viewpoints</title>
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      <dc:creator>Knygatin</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[calonlan Wrote:
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&gt; While I am myself a Classical musician, I grew up in the South in the 30's

I am of a younger generation born in the 60's, who grew up with 70's &quot;hippie&quot; rock. But I appreciate great music in most categories, and like exploring Classical, 30's swing jazz, avantgarde, even Norwegian nihilistic black metal (can't be listened to in the summer though. Only suitable for midwinter, when it's freezing cold and daily living is harsh and straining, and the pee turns to ice in midair outside the cabin.) Different kinds of music stir different parts of the mentality; love, melancholy, ethereality, freed imagination, resoluteness, viking berserk aggression. For example, 30's swing is extremely joyful, and when listening to it, my legs can't help but start dancing the jig like they did in those good old days. It's very humorous!

&gt; The Sacred Harp - it is raw and
&gt; primitive and wonderful - if you can find one, go,
&gt; and if possible, participate - my bet is you would
&gt; love it.

Thanks for the tip. This choir might have worked neat for me, [i]if[/i] I was on a Christian mission, and better able to [i]subordinate[/i] my individuality into the group herd mentality. But being the pagan rebel I am, they would have rejected me before I had even time to sit down. I attempted choir singing in my fumbling youth, and I can say, it was [i]not[/i] a success!



Now about Hank Williams... what a genius!

Isn't this great poetry?

&quot;Goodbye Joe, me gotta go, me oh my oh
Me gotta go pole the pirogue down the bayou
My Yvonne, the sweetest one, me oh my oh
Son of a gun, we'll have good fun on the bayou

Jambalaya and a crawfish pie and file' gumbo 
'Cause tonight I’m gonna see my ma cher amio 
Pick guitar, fill fruit jar and be gay-o 
Son of a gun, we’ll have big fun on the bayou 

Thibodeaux, Fontainenot, the place is buzzin’ 
Kinfolk come to see Yvonne by the dozen 
Dress in style and go hog wild, me oh my oh 
Son of a gun, we’ll have big fun on the bayou...&quot;


The Residents performed an atmospheric primitive slow version of [i]Jambalaya[/i], reeking of the warm South backwaters. Mixing in lyrics from other Hank songs, where he &quot;went to meet his darling by the singing waterfall&quot;. 
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0zKzc7Evxc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0zKzc7Evxc[/url]

The Residents is an avantgarde band, who tend to twist and bend the borders of conventional reality, sometimes causing nightmarish soundscapes that border on insanity. They may perhaps be said to be akin to the cosmic perspective.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:16:25 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Less Familiar Weird Literature</title>
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      <dc:creator>asshurbanipal</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Jim
Many thanks for your continued interest. I shall email Rosemary Pardoe moy pronto.

Hi Sandor
Again many thanks for your interest, but I'm not sure that a site dedicared to Clark Ashton Smith would be the proper place for my efforts. I mentioned the idea to find out whether my dream was original or whether something had resurfaced from the distant past. I rather expected somebody to say, &quot;Yes, I read The Chinese Box some years ago in a collection by ******* *******,&quot; but I'm glad to say that didn't happen. Let me keep you posted, though.]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Tales Of India And Irony</title>
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      <dc:creator>asshurbanipal</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[January 30th (Day 2481)
Another Monday, another blank. Perhaps NSB's distributor wears a red suit.]]></description>
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      <title>Re: CAS drawings on ebay</title>
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      <dc:creator>Scott Connors</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[Withdrawn.]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Onan on Conan</title>
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      <dc:creator>calonlan</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[treycelement Wrote:
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&gt; calonlan wrote:
&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Interesting observations - one small reminder -
&gt; &gt; nearly all of the mythology and proper names
&gt; (like
&gt; &gt; Conan) and toponymic references (like Cimmeria)
&gt; &gt; were borrowed quite freely from Irish Mythology
&gt; -
&gt; &gt; no doubt a barbaric and demon haunted, sorcerer
&gt; &gt; be-deviled time in history -- It is only
&gt; recently
&gt; &gt; that the rich history/mythology of Ireland has
&gt; &gt; come into a general awareness in academia - the
&gt; &gt; novels of Morgan Llewellyn have done an
&gt; admirable
&gt; &gt; job of reviving interest in the Celts in
&gt; general,
&gt; &gt; and the bardic tradition in particular 
&gt; 
&gt; ach, dr farmer -- you should remember absquatch's
&gt; advice and not encourage me in my monkey business
&gt; by replying to my posts!
&gt; 
&gt; however, on ireland: do you think it has been the
&gt; poor relation on the celtic fringe? e.g. if the
&gt; welsh are traditionally thought of as mystic, the
&gt; irish are traditionally thought of as fools:
&gt; 
&gt; Irish Jokes
&gt; 
&gt; perhaps it has something to do with these
&gt; interesting iq distributions in europe?
&gt; 
&gt; http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1701/europeiq1200.p
&gt; ng
&gt; 
&gt; further discussion here:
&gt; 
&gt; http://jayman.blog.com/2012/01/17/iq-ceilings/

I wasn't aware that the Irish were thought of as fools (except for their penchant for drunken pugilistics) - but as a people, the residue of Druidism still runs deep, and their capacity for extraordinary music and poetry easily matches their kinfolk in Wales - they are indeed an amazing mix of their Iberian heritage blended with people who were almost certainly Danites (46percent of Old Irish is cognate with Hebrew) - and they had the chariot and mastery of the horse centuries ahead of the mainland.  And as much as I love Welsh poets and music, no one promotes &quot;The Three Welsh Tenors&quot; - though this too has a troubling dimension for an Opera Singer Emeritus (latin for &quot;has been&quot;), since in the operatic world we recognize three genders: &quot;men, women, and tenors&quot; --]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Cosmic viewpoints</title>
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      <dc:creator>calonlan</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[Knygatin Wrote:
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&gt; This post is only slightly related to cosmicism.
&gt; Or it may be more so. I don't know. It's still
&gt; about the reach of the human mind.
&gt; 
&gt; While stomping away to the passionate music of
&gt; Hank Williams (This God-gifted singer-song-writer
&gt; rising from a poor hillbilly background, whom I
&gt; recently discovered after overcoming childish
&gt; prejudice against country-music. I also must admit
&gt; that I have a fondness for Southern drawl.), I got
&gt; to wondering about the nature of music in a larger
&gt; perspective. Is the clear-cut measured rythms of
&gt; very memorable music created by man limited in
&gt; meaning to the small enclosure of the specific
&gt; species human mind and emotional setup? Or do
&gt; these measured rythms have universal force? Would
&gt; they affect attention from other intelligent life,
&gt; or only slip by as meaningless trails of chaotic
&gt; tones?
While I am myself a Classical musician, I grew up in the South in the 30's where the best entertainment was a travelling Revival - with this newfound interest, may I suggest using google to see if there are any &quot;Old Harp&quot; singing groups that meet with some regularity in your area.  - The Sacred Harp singing method mightily influenced the &quot;hillbilly&quot; traditions - it is raw and primitive and wonderful - if you can find one, go, and if possible, participate - my bet is you would love it.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:22:27 -0600</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>metsat00</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[Aloha Asshurbanipal,
  Well hopefully you'll post it here so we can enjoy it.  Mahalo,

Sandor Szabo]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[asshurbanipal Wrote:
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&gt; Hi Sandor Szabo
&gt; Many thanks for the information. I have a couple
&gt; of Chandler omnibuses, but neither contains The
&gt; Bronze Door. I shall have to find this somewhere.
&gt; Many thanks also to those who encouraged me with
&gt; this idea, and now the deed is done - THE CHINESE
&gt; BOX in 2000 words is complete. It isn't the
&gt; greatest story ever written, but I've read worse
&gt; (and in print). What to do with it now, though?


Rosemary Pardoe of the Ghosts and Scholars M. R. James Newsletter would like to see your story. Her email address is pardos@globalnet.co.uk

Jim]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:28:36 -0600</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Scott Connors</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[I am selling two drawings by Clark Ashton Smith:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=260944456616

http://www.ebay.com/itm/260944465228?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:52:52 -0600</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: HPL &amp; Nightmares -my essay</title>
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      <dc:creator>Knygatin</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[Absquatch Wrote:
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&gt; Finally, amid all this flurry of enthusiasm for
&gt; literary criticism and other pattern-seeking
&gt; (actually pattern-making) activities, let's not
&gt; forget the wise words of Clark Ashton Smith,
&gt; himself:
&gt; 
&gt; &quot;Explanations are neither necessary, desirable,
&gt; nor possible.&quot;

Compared to a century ago, I believe that today criticism dominates the social room much more. It causes an aloofness which I don't think is desirable. Personally I wish that people would use their energies more for creating fantastic things than for writing about what others have created.

I don't mean to pour cold water on the discussion. I do read some criticism, it can be educative, and especially a shortcut to finding great things. I admit I have not read Gavin Callaghan's lengthy essay, or the argumentative replies; I have been too tired and my eyes feel worn out from other research.

Nevertheless, relating to CAS's words, I found the following epigraphs refreshing:

[i]The highest state that man can achieve is that of astonishment; and when a primary phenomenon astonishes him, he should be satisfied. It cannot give him anything higher, and he must not look for anything more beyond it; this is the frontier[/i] - Goethe

[i]In the end it is the mystery that lasts and not the explanation[/i] - Sacheverell Sitwell]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>Jojo Lapin X</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[The Everyman's Library Chandler collection contains &quot;The Bronze Door.&quot;]]></description>
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      <dc:creator>asshurbanipal</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Sandor Szabo
Many thanks for the information. I have a couple of Chandler omnibuses, but neither contains The Bronze Door. I shall have to find this somewhere. Many thanks also to those who encouraged me with this idea, and now the deed is done - THE CHINESE BOX in 2000 words is complete. It isn't the greatest story ever written, but I've read worse (and in print). What to do with it now, though?]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Onan on Conan</title>
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      <dc:creator>treycelement</dc:creator>
      <description><![CDATA[calonlan wrote:

&gt; Interesting observations - one small reminder -
&gt; nearly all of the mythology and proper names (like
&gt; Conan) and toponymic references (like Cimmeria)
&gt; were borrowed quite freely from Irish Mythology -
&gt; no doubt a barbaric and demon haunted, sorcerer
&gt; be-deviled time in history -- It is only recently
&gt; that the rich history/mythology of Ireland has
&gt; come into a general awareness in academia - the
&gt; novels of Morgan Llewellyn have done an admirable
&gt; job of reviving interest in the Celts in general,
&gt; and the bardic tradition in particular 

ach, dr farmer -- you should remember absquatch's advice and not encourage me in my monkey business by replying to my posts!

however, on ireland: do you think it has been the poor relation on the celtic fringe? e.g. if the welsh are traditionally thought of as mystic, the irish are traditionally thought of as fools:

[url=http://irishjokes.com/]Irish Jokes[/url]

perhaps it has something to do with these interesting iq distributions in europe?

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1701/europeiq1200.png

further discussion here:

http://jayman.blog.com/2012/01/17/iq-ceilings/]]></description>
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