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Re: GHOUL STORIES IN ENGLISH (1706-1943)
Posted by: Chipougne (IP Logged)
Date: 6 April, 2019 11:31AM
I first read «Far Below» as a teenager in this French anthology and was quite impressed by it. Back then it reminded me of Lovecraft’s «Pickman’s Model». It seems to me that these creatures qualify as ghouls, yes.

https://www.noosfere.org/livres/niourf.asp?numlivre=-1171438492

Re: GHOUL STORIES IN ENGLISH (1706-1943)
Posted by: Minicthulhu (IP Logged)
Date: 6 April, 2019 11:56AM
For the life of me, I cannot remember what Pickman´s Model is about, though its author belongs among my favourite writers, but the fact remains Lovecraft is explicitly mentioned in "Far Below". And not only Lovecraft, even Washington Irving, Nyarlathotep and cosmic horror are mentioned by the narrator. Simply a weird tale at its best. :-)

Re: GHOUL STORIES IN ENGLISH (1706-1943)
Posted by: Chipougne (IP Logged)
Date: 6 April, 2019 12:00PM
Minicthulhu Wrote:
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> For the life of me, I cannot remember what
> Pickman´s Model is about, though its author
> the fact
> remains Lovecraft is explicitly mentioned in "Far
> Below". And not only Lovecraft, even Washington
> Irving, Nyarlathotep and cosmic horror are
> mentioned by the narrator.

Hence this "impression" I was under. :D Memory... Well, that was almost 40 years ago, time to read it again I guess.

Re: GHOUL STORIES IN ENGLISH (1706-1943)
Posted by: Platypus (IP Logged)
Date: 6 April, 2019 10:24PM
Minicthulhu Wrote:
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> Do you know a short story "Far Below" (1939) by
> Robert Barbour Johnson that was published in a
> Weird Tales issue?

Thank you. I was able to find it on archive.org from your description (Weird Tales, June-July, 1939). It is pretty good.

Like you said, it references Lovecraft's name directly, as an author who knew about "the Things". I think there is also a more subtle reference to Lucas White's "Amina".

Re: GHOUL STORIES IN ENGLISH (1706-1943)
Posted by: Platypus (IP Logged)
Date: 6 April, 2019 10:32PM
Minicthulhu Wrote:
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> For the life of me, I cannot remember what
> Pickman´s Model is about, though its author
> belongs among my favourite writers, but the fact
> remains Lovecraft is explicitly mentioned in "Far
> Below". And not only Lovecraft, even Washington
> Irving, Nyarlathotep and cosmic horror are
> mentioned by the narrator. Simply a weird tale at
> its best. :-)

Pickman is an morbid artist painting ghouls, and other horrific subjects, in Boston, who offers to show his friend, the narrator, his private studio where he does his best work. Eventually, the narrator realizes that the paintings are not fiction.

One of his paintings is called "Subway Accident", and depicts ghouls attacking subway passengers. This is the direct inspiration for "Far Below".

Re: GHOUL STORIES IN ENGLISH (1706-1943)
Posted by: Minicthulhu (IP Logged)
Date: 7 April, 2019 04:08AM
Archive.org is great, I used to visit the site to get stuff from there but now I visit www.luminist.org/archives/SF/WT.htm that Jeff Gilleland recommended in one of his posts on this forum some time ago. They have complete Weird Tales issues and other magazines.

By the way, why ghoul stories? Are you fond of this subgenre?

Re: GHOUL STORIES IN ENGLISH (1706-1943)
Posted by: Platypus (IP Logged)
Date: 8 April, 2019 09:26AM
Minicthulhu Wrote:
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> By the way, why ghoul stories? Are you fond of
> this subgenre?

I cannot recall any particular reason. After doing a certain amount of reading of certain authors, I found I knew a bit about ghoul fiction and folklore, and its origins. On a whim, I decided to see if could find out more. I decided to post my results here, since Clark Ashton Smith, morbid fellow that he was, has written more than the usual share of ghoul stories.

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