Dale Nelson Wrote:
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> Knygatin Wrote:
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> > Poetic consciousness was prevalent in Europe
> > before the entrance of the Christian church.
>
> Yes, and afterwards too. Poetic consciousness
> was, I suppose, the norm in the English-speaking
> lands and the West till the 20th century, and
> still is in many of the "undeveloped" locations.
> Sociological consciousness is, I suppose, rooted
> in the Enlightenment as an ideology (not in its
> real achievements). Marx, in the mid-19th
> century, was the great prophet of sociological
> consciousness. (I recommend Leopold
> Schwarzschild's classic biography, The Red
> Prussian.)
>
> In the 20th century, Communism brought over 100
> million lives to an end (for extensive
> documentation, see Harvard University Press's The
> Black Book of Communism). Hitler's National
> Socialism was a weird hybrid, an attempt to create
> a synthesis of pagan elements and sociological
> consciousness. Its inclusion of Marxist
> influences is not often mentioned by academics and
> activists, but read for yourself:
>
> [
www.independent.co.uk]
> itler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html
Yes.
Do you ever seen Hitler and other western workld leaders of that era as the last gasp of Romanticism?
All if these guys read right straight out of Ayn Rand.
Too, I see an odd similarity between the Nazi movement and Japan's attempt to become a major world power at that time.
Both were deeply racially based. There would ultimately be a collision, had they prevailed.
There was a national/racial myth. Pagan Teutonic man on the one hand and the people of the living sun god.
And both cultures took a tremendous hit in terms of confidence and continuity after being punitively slapped down during, and immediately after, WWII. This was probably by designed policy--or should have been, at any rate.
WWII was an existential war.
>
>
> No real pagan revival is likely, though people may
> attempt it; but the oracles have fallen silent and
> the cry "Pan is dead!" rang out over two millennia
> ago, during the reign of the Emperor Tiberius.
>
> [
www.perseus.tufts.edu]
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> [
www.perseus.tufts.edu]
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--Sawfish
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