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Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Hespire (IP Logged)
Date: 27 June, 2021 12:03AM
There was a brief discussion in the fantasy and sci-fi thread about memorable monsters in literature, and it made me appreciate how utterly unique and marvelous many of CAS' creatures can be. He and HPL had such talent when it came to creating distinctive entities, and giving them highly original stories that bring them to unearthly life with every reading, almost like incantations to summon real gods and demons!

Sometimes they don't have to be the focal point of a story. Sometimes they're woven with the narrative or setting like fabulous gargoyles and grotesque vignettes, as demonstrated in this menagerie from "The Dark Eidolon."

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Then, into the hall, there filed an array of tall mummies, clad in royal cerements of purple and scarlet, and wearing gold crowns on their withered craniums. And after them, like servitors, came gigantic skeletons who wore loin-cloths of nacarat orange and about whose upper skulls, from brow to crown, live serpents of banded saffron and ebon had wrapped themselves for head-dresses. And the mummies bowed before Zotulla, saying with thin, sere voices:

"We, who were kings of the wide realm of Tasuun aforetime, have been sent as a guard of honor for the emperor Zotulla, to attend him as is befitting when he goes forth to the feast prepared by Namirrha."

[...]Then, coming forward, the mummies said in dusty accents: "All is made ready, and the feast awaits the arrival of Zotulla." And the cerements of the mummies stirred and fell open at the bosom, and small rodent monsters, brown as bitumen, eyed as with accursed rubies, reared forth from the eaten hearts of the mummies like rats from their holes and chittered shrilly in human speech, repeating the words. The skeletons in turn took up the solemn sentence; and the black and saffron serpents hissed it from their skulls; and the words were repeated lastly in baleful rumblings by certain furry creatures of dubious form, hitherto unseen by Zotulla, who sat behind the ribs of the skeletons as if in cages of white wicker.

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Coming to the open portals of Namirrha's house, the emperor saw that they were guarded by great crimson-wattled things, half dragon, half man, who bowed before him, sweeping their wattles like bloody besoms on the flags of dark onyx. And the emperor passed with Obexah between the louting monsters, with the mummies, the skeletons and his own people behind him in strange pageant, and entered a vast and multicolumned hall, where the daylight, following timidly, was drowned by the baleful arrogant blaze of a thousand lamps.

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In the wide intervals between the tables, the familiars of Namirrha and his other servants went to and fro incessantly, as if a fantasmagoria of ill dreams were embodied before the emperor. Kingly cadavers in robes of time-rotted brocade, with worms seething in their eye-pits, poured a blood-like wine into cups of the opalescent horn of unicorns. Lamias, trident-tailed, and four-breasted chimeras, came in with fuming platters lifted high by their brazen claws. Dog-headed devils, tongued with lolling flames, ran forward to offer themselves as ushers for the company. And before Zotulla and Obexah, there appeared a curious being with the full-fleshed lower limbs and hips of a great black woman and the clean-picked bones of some titanic ape from thereupward.

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"Now, I fear," said Namirrha, "that you find the meat devoid of savor, and the wine without fire. So, to enliven our feasting, I shall call forth my singers and my musicians."

He spoke a word unknown to Zotulla or Obexah, which sounded throughout the mighty hall as if a thousand voices in turn had taken it up and prolonged it. Anon there appeared the singers, who were she-ghouls with shaven bodies and hairy shanks, and long yellow tushes full of shredded carrion curving across their chaps from mouths that fawned hyena-wise on the company. Behind them entered the musicians, some of whom were male devils pacing erect on the hind-quarters of sable stallions and plucking with the fingers of white apes at lyres of the bone and sinew of cannibals from Naat; and others were pied satyrs puffing their goatish cheeks at hautboys formed from the bosom-skin of Negro queens and the horn of rhinoceri.

They bowed before Namirrha with grotesque ceremony. Then, without delay, the she-ghouls began a most dolorous and execrable howling, as of jackals that have sniffed their carrion; and the satyrs and devils played a lament that was like the moaning of desert-born winds through forsaken palace harems. And Zotulla shivered, for the singing filled his marrow with ice, and the music left in his heart a desolation as of empires fallen and trod under by the iron-shod hooves of time. Ever, amid that evil music, he seemed to hear the sifting of sand across withered gardens, and the windy rustling of rotted silks upon couches of bygone luxury, and the hissing of coiled serpents from the low fusts of shattered columns. And the glory that had been Ummaos seemed to pass away like the blown pillars of the simoom.

Perhaps these particular descriptions aren't for everyone, but this can be a thread for monster appreciation in general! Monsters clearly have a special place in culture. They are represented everywhere in Egyptian hieroglyphs, Hindu temples, Balinese masks and sculptures, Chinese scrolls, and the like.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 27 Jun 21 | 12:10AM by Hespire.

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 27 June, 2021 04:18AM
The dragon. I can't find many more words right now for this marvelous monster. But the dragon is so profound, that it is real.

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Sawfish (IP Logged)
Date: 27 June, 2021 07:44AM
Hespire Wrote:
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> There was a brief discussion in the fantasy and
> sci-fi thread about memorable monsters in
> literature, and it made me appreciate how utterly
> unique and marvelous many of CAS' creatures can
> be. He and HPL had such talent when it came to
> creating distinctive entities, and giving them
> highly original stories that bring them to
> unearthly life with every reading, almost like
> incantations to summon real gods and demons!
>
> Sometimes they don't have to be the focal point of
> a story. Sometimes they're woven with the
> narrative or setting like fabulous gargoyles and
> grotesque vignettes, as demonstrated in this
> menagerie from "The Dark Eidolon."
>
> Then, into the hall, there filed an array of tall
> mummies, clad in royal cerements of purple and
> scarlet, and wearing gold crowns on their withered
> craniums. And after them, like servitors, came
> gigantic skeletons who wore loin-cloths of nacarat
> orange and about whose upper skulls, from brow to
> crown, live serpents of banded saffron and ebon
> had wrapped themselves for head-dresses. And the
> mummies bowed before Zotulla, saying with thin,
> sere voices:
>
>
> "We, who were kings of the wide realm of Tasuun
> aforetime, have been sent as a guard of honor for
> the emperor Zotulla, to attend him as is befitting
> when he goes forth to the feast prepared by
> Namirrha."
>
> [...]Then, coming forward, the mummies said in
> dusty accents: "All is made ready, and the feast
> awaits the arrival of Zotulla." And the cerements
> of the mummies stirred and fell open at the bosom,
> and small rodent monsters, brown as bitumen, eyed
> as with accursed rubies, reared forth from the
> eaten hearts of the mummies like rats from their
> holes and chittered shrilly in human speech,
> repeating the words. The skeletons in turn took up
> the solemn sentence; and the black and saffron
> serpents hissed it from their skulls; and the
> words were repeated lastly in baleful rumblings by
> certain furry creatures of dubious form, hitherto
> unseen by Zotulla, who sat behind the ribs of the
> skeletons as if in cages of white wicker.
>
> Coming to the open portals of Namirrha's house,
> the emperor saw that they were guarded by great
> crimson-wattled things, half dragon, half man, who
> bowed before him, sweeping their wattles like
> bloody besoms on the flags of dark onyx. And the
> emperor passed with Obexah between the louting
> monsters, with the mummies, the skeletons and his
> own people behind him in strange pageant, and
> entered a vast and multicolumned hall, where the
> daylight, following timidly, was drowned by the
> baleful arrogant blaze of a thousand lamps.
>
> In the wide intervals between the tables, the
> familiars of Namirrha and his other servants went
> to and fro incessantly, as if a fantasmagoria of
> ill dreams were embodied before the emperor.
> Kingly cadavers in robes of time-rotted brocade,
> with worms seething in their eye-pits, poured a
> blood-like wine into cups of the opalescent horn
> of unicorns. Lamias, trident-tailed, and
> four-breasted chimeras, came in with fuming
> platters lifted high by their brazen claws.
> Dog-headed devils, tongued with lolling flames,
> ran forward to offer themselves as ushers for the
> company. And before Zotulla and Obexah, there
> appeared a curious being with the full-fleshed
> lower limbs and hips of a great black woman and
> the clean-picked bones of some titanic ape from
> thereupward.
>
> "Now, I fear," said Namirrha, "that you find the
> meat devoid of savor, and the wine without fire.
> So, to enliven our feasting, I shall call forth my
> singers and my musicians."
>
>
> He spoke a word unknown to Zotulla or Obexah,
> which sounded throughout the mighty hall as if a
> thousand voices in turn had taken it up and
> prolonged it. Anon there appeared the singers, who
> were she-ghouls with shaven bodies and hairy
> shanks, and long yellow tushes full of shredded
> carrion curving across their chaps from mouths
> that fawned hyena-wise on the company. Behind them
> entered the musicians, some of whom were male
> devils pacing erect on the hind-quarters of sable
> stallions and plucking with the fingers of white
> apes at lyres of the bone and sinew of cannibals
> from Naat; and others were pied satyrs puffing
> their goatish cheeks at hautboys formed from the
> bosom-skin of Negro queens and the horn of
> rhinoceri.
>
> They bowed before Namirrha with grotesque
> ceremony. Then, without delay, the she-ghouls
> began a most dolorous and execrable howling, as of
> jackals that have sniffed their carrion; and the
> satyrs and devils played a lament that was like
> the moaning of desert-born winds through forsaken
> palace harems. And Zotulla shivered, for the
> singing filled his marrow with ice, and the music
> left in his heart a desolation as of empires
> fallen and trod under by the iron-shod hooves of
> time. Ever, amid that evil music, he seemed to
> hear the sifting of sand across withered gardens,
> and the windy rustling of rotted silks upon
> couches of bygone luxury, and the hissing of
> coiled serpents from the low fusts of shattered
> columns. And the glory that had been Ummaos seemed
> to pass away like the blown pillars of the
> simoom.
>
> Perhaps these particular descriptions aren't for
> everyone, but this can be a thread for monster
> appreciation in general! Monsters clearly have a
> special place in culture. They are represented
> everywhere in Egyptian hieroglyphs, Hindu temples,
> Balinese masks and sculptures, Chinese scrolls,
> and the like.

This is precisely why I read CAS.

--Sawfish

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"The food at the new restaurant is awful, but at least the portions are large."
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Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Hespire (IP Logged)
Date: 27 June, 2021 12:08PM
Knygatin Wrote:
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> The dragon. I can't find many more words right now
> for this marvelous monster. But the dragon is so
> profound, that it is real.


For something with only a sentence of description, I found the human-dragons quite mesmerizing as well. I can only imagine how eye-catching and disgusting those "bloody besoms" must look! And there's a certain spell-binding ritualism in seeing such blood-red wattles sweeping across the pavement before they enter what is essentially Hell (the description of Namirrha's palace has much in common with William Beckford's Palace of Subterranean Fire).

Those furry things stirring within the rib cages also give me the creeps! CAS knew better than to confirm whether they are rats, demons, or something wholly out of this world.

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Sawfish (IP Logged)
Date: 27 June, 2021 01:08PM
Hespire Wrote:
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> Knygatin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The dragon. I can't find many more words right
> now
> > for this marvelous monster. But the dragon is
> so
> > profound, that it is real.
>
>
> For something with only a sentence of description,
> I found the human-dragons quite mesmerizing as
> well. I can only imagine how eye-catching and
> disgusting those "bloody besoms" must look! And
> there's a certain spell-binding ritualism in
> seeing such blood-red wattles sweeping across the
> pavement before they enter what is essentially
> Hell (the description of Namirrha's palace has
> much in common with William Beckford's Palace of
> Subterranean Fire).
>
> Those furry things stirring within the rib cages
> also give me the creeps! CAS knew better than to
> confirm whether they are rats, demons, or
> something wholly out of this world.

I really liked the way the each repeated the invitation, the mummies, the snakes, and the furballs.

Hard to say "no", huh? ;^)

There was a TREMENDOUSLY cinematic quality to this sequence (oddly--don't laugh, now!) I found it ironically amusing.

Very much of the best of CAS is, to me, cinematic.

--Sawfish

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"The food at the new restaurant is awful, but at least the portions are large."
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Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 27 June, 2021 01:50PM
Hespire Wrote:
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> Knygatin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The dragon. I can't find many more words right
> now
> > for this marvelous monster. But the dragon is
> so
> > profound, that it is real.
>
>
> For something with only a sentence of description,
> I found the human-dragons quite mesmerizing as
> well. I can only imagine how eye-catching and
> disgusting those "bloody besoms" must look! And
> there's a certain spell-binding ritualism in
> seeing such blood-red wattles sweeping across the
> pavement before they enter what is essentially
> Hell (the description of Namirrha's palace has
> much in common with William Beckford's Palace of
> Subterranean Fire).
>
>

Actually I was referring to the traditional mythological dragon in general. It is mysteriously archetypal and touches most people in one way or another.

But yes, those enthralling half-dragons guarding the portals have always been a high point for me among many marvels in "The Dark Eidolon". Often have wished that one of the great stop motion animators in film would have sculpted and animated them onto the screen.

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Sawfish (IP Logged)
Date: 27 June, 2021 02:10PM
Knygatin Wrote:
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> Hespire Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Knygatin Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > The dragon. I can't find many more words
> right
> > now
> > > for this marvelous monster. But the dragon is
> > so
> > > profound, that it is real.
> >
> >
> > For something with only a sentence of
> description,
> > I found the human-dragons quite mesmerizing as
> > well. I can only imagine how eye-catching and
> > disgusting those "bloody besoms" must look! And
> > there's a certain spell-binding ritualism in
> > seeing such blood-red wattles sweeping across
> the
> > pavement before they enter what is essentially
> > Hell (the description of Namirrha's palace has
> > much in common with William Beckford's Palace
> of
> > Subterranean Fire).
> >
> >
>
> Actually I was referring to the traditional
> mythological dragon in general. It is mysteriously
> archetypal and touches most people in one way or
> another.
>
> But yes, those enthralling half-dragons guarding
> the portals have always been a high point for me
> among many marvels in "The Dark Eidolon". Often
> have wished that one of the great stop motion
> animators in film would have sculpted and animated
> them onto the screen.

For some reason the whole banquet sequence shares many of the same evocative elements of the table scene in Tod Browning's "Freaks".

It appears to be a sort of distorted notion of hospitality offered in what seems to be a genuine spirit of deference and honor, but those displaying it draw upon vastly different norms.

Gooble, gobble, indeed...

Of course, Namirrah knows better, and there is no character to parallel him in Freaks, so the analogy breaks down, but....

--Sawfish

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"The food at the new restaurant is awful, but at least the portions are large."
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Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Hespire (IP Logged)
Date: 27 June, 2021 06:27PM
Sawfish Wrote:
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> For some reason the whole banquet sequence shares
> many of the same evocative elements of the table
> scene in Tod Browning's "Freaks".
>
> It appears to be a sort of distorted notion of
> hospitality offered in what seems to be a genuine
> spirit of deference and honor, but those
> displaying it draw upon vastly different norms.
>
> Gooble, gobble, indeed...
>
> Of course, Namirrah knows better, and there is no
> character to parallel him in Freaks, so the
> analogy breaks down, but....


CAS seemed to sympathize with outsiders. Namirrha was one all his life, and although he never made a human duck out of Zotulla, he did give Zotulla a taste of his own medicine (and then some!), albeit at the cost of his soul and sanity. I'm not sure what CAS would have thought of Freaks, but he gave an unusual degree of dignity and psychological understanding to his monsters, sorcerers, and outcasts, even the vilest of them. I recall his story "The Ghoul", in which the eponymous monster seemed civilized by its own standards, and wasn't judged for being a ghoul, though cruel to the human protagonist ("I've been fasting for a while now, so give me some human flesh and I promise to leave your wife's grave alone"). And in his story "Sadastor" we see a demon cheering up a man-eating lamia by telling her the tragic tale of how he tried to save a man-eating siren so she could kill more men another day.

But ah, I drift from the Freaks analogy! These scenes of deathly processions and demons of death have a similar fervor as the table scene. One of us, one of the dead! Gooble gobble!



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 27 Jun 21 | 06:56PM by Hespire.

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Hespire (IP Logged)
Date: 27 June, 2021 06:55PM
Knygatin Wrote:
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> Actually I was referring to the traditional
> mythological dragon in general. It is mysteriously
> archetypal and touches most people in one way or
> another.


Oh now I see. Well, this is a monster appreciation thread, so why not dragons? It astounds me how far this archetype has traveled. There are stories of dragon-like creatures even where reptiles are rare, such as Greenland or Iceland. Serpents can seem scary to humans, but they're also revered across different cultures, and they must have a universally pleasing form for them to appear so often in ancient and medieval art. I recall Borges praising dragons as the most elegant or profound of all mythic beings, and now I want to find that passage again...


> But yes, those enthralling half-dragons guarding
> the portals have always been a high point for me
> among many marvels in "The Dark Eidolon". Often
> have wished that one of the great stop motion
> animators in film would have sculpted and animated
> them onto the screen.


I can't think of anyone better than Ray Harryhausen. His films are a little too boisterous and traditionally positive to make room for CAS, but his special effects are perfect for their fabulous style.

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Avoosl Wuthoqquan (IP Logged)
Date: 27 June, 2021 07:45PM
Hespire Wrote:
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> Knygatin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> > Often
> > have wished that one of the great stop motion
> > animators in film would have sculpted and
> > animated them onto the screen.
>
>
> I can't think of anyone better than Ray
> Harryhausen. His films are a little too boisterous
> and traditionally positive to make room for CAS,
> but his special effects are perfect for their
> fabulous style.

It’s more stop than motion, but I feel that I must mention this masterpiece again here:

Death of Malygris sculpture

And speaking of animation, as the Japanese have a very rich monster tradition (google the word ‘yokai’ to get an impression), my choice of animators for CAS’s monsters would be the Japanese animation studio Madhouse, especially in the light of their excellent horror/fantasy work on Ninja Scroll and Vampire Hunter D.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 27 Jun 21 | 07:46PM by Avoosl Wuthoqquan.

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 28 June, 2021 01:47AM
Hespire Wrote:
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>
> Coming to the open portals of Namirrha's house,
> the emperor saw that they were guarded by great
> crimson-wattled things, half dragon, half man, who
> bowed before him, sweeping their wattles like
> bloody besoms on the flags of dark onyx. And the
> emperor passed with Obexah between the louting
> monsters, ...

I don't know about you, but I don't imagine those "wattles" as bleeding, but more like the blood-filled appendages cresting the head and hanging from the chin of a rooster.

> I can't think of anyone better than Ray
> Harryhausen. His films are a little too boisterous
> and traditionally positive to make room for CAS,
> but his special effects are perfect for their
> fabulous style.

I don't think Harryhausen would have accepted it. He was the Master of traditional classic fantasy, his monsters are perfectly achieved in design and in animated life. (But he could be very bizarre too. His Cyclops completely surprised and unhinged me; for it is very provocative, almost blasphemous, in its affronting appearance and movements.)

I think Phil Tippett would have been the perfect man for the job.

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 28 June, 2021 02:06AM
Hespire Wrote:
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>
> Coming to the open portals of Namirrha's house,
> the emperor saw that they were guarded by great
> crimson-wattled things, half dragon, half man, ...

In rough outline I see something similar to the upright squat pink dragon thing on this book cover, although more evolved in details.

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 28 June, 2021 02:21AM
Knygatin Wrote:
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>
> In rough outline I see something similar to the
> upright squat pink dragon thing on this book
> cover, although more evolved in details.

And larger in size ...

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Sawfish (IP Logged)
Date: 28 June, 2021 05:18AM
Knygatin Wrote:
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> Knygatin Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > In rough outline I see something similar to the
> > upright squat pink dragon thing on this book
> > cover, although more evolved in details.
>
> And larger in size ...

"Good evening, sir. Step right this way, your table awaits.

"My name is Jared. I'll be your wait person this evening..."

--Sawfish

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"The food at the new restaurant is awful, but at least the portions are large."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Re: Monster Appreciation Thread
Posted by: Knygatin (IP Logged)
Date: 28 June, 2021 06:40AM
Sawfish Wrote:
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>
> "Good evening, sir. Step right this way, your
> table awaits.
>
> "My name is Jared. I'll be your wait person this
> evening..."

:) Yes. And sweeping both wattles and paws along the ground, from one side to the next, pointing the way with its whole frame. Some imagination Clark Ashton Smith had, huh?! Amazing.

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