Eldritch Frog Wrote:
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> Knygatin Wrote:
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> > *sigh* Amazing.
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> Actually it is amazing that you are criticizing
> the content of this thread which is clearly
> labeled "pub dates...". Yes this thread is
> devoted to discussing the publishing of these two
> volumes not the contents.
You choose not to take in the full meaning of what I said in my previous post.
Agreed, that if one wants to discuss other facets of the editions, then one could open another thread for that purpose. Such a discussion would likely get buried here, anyway, so why not create a new thread for it?
On the other hand, there's no reason not to discuss tangentially related subjects, such as small presses, delays, and the like in this thread.
I agree, by the way, that Hippocampus, though far from perfect, is much, much better than average for a small, specialty press, and much more professional, too. I often think of them when I read others apologizing for, or otherwise trying to rationalize, the performance of the likes of Night Shade and Wildside, et al.
Knygatin Wrote:
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> You choose not to take in the full meaning of what
> I said in my previous post.
I, too, have made this choice on occasion!
As regards statistics versus analysis, that is simply the nature of "fandom." Being tangentially involved with all sorts of different "fandoms," I see the same pattern everywhere. "Fans" prefer to discuss issues like exactly when an author first submitted a particular story, or how many feet of film a director shot, rather than ask questions like "What is good about this? What is good Art anyway?" One reason for this is that if you start thinking critically about what you are consuming, other "fans" may think you do not love your favorite author or director as unconditionally as you should as a "fan." I direct you to the Robert E Howard Forum (from which, I should point out, in the interest of full disclosure, I was banned) for a particularly extreme example of this kind of intellectual environment.
I am glad there are on this forum at least some posters who transcend the fan level.
I just can't help but being irritated by shallowness, therefore my annoyed previous post. Although now afterwards I kind of regret it, because it spread bad atmosphere. Maybe I should have expressed my thoughts in a more diplomatic way. But sometimes conflict is inevitable.
Jojo Lapin X Wrote:
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> I direct you to the Robert
> E Howard Forum (from which, I should point out, in
> the interest of full disclosure, I was banned) for
> a particularly extreme example of this kind of
> intellectual environment.
I am surprised you were banned, since you seem to me like the typical cool cat-personality. But of course, you have been known to provoke your fellow posters out of balance from time to time. (Well, anyway, the Howard Forum should have a high threshold for fighting!)
Wow, there are some real exobrains on this site! I'll never keep pace, so call me Mr. Shallow (wasn't he in Shakespeare? Who said, "Shakespeare? I'll moider da bum!" I think it was a boxer). And here am I, swimming in three inches of water and wondering why my knees hurt.
PS. The REH Foundation is super-duper. There are some hoopey froods there all right! Got my volumes of REH letters and poetry in the post toot sweet and got them here before you could say "Bob's your uncle."
PPS. Yeah, I really dig those intellectual things too, and I took the plunge with regard to both Smith and Lovecraft something like 47 years agone, give or take a lustrum. I'm all in favour of stuff like, "What are we all here for? What does it all mean?" Sometimes, though, you just have to take a back seat and stick to something simpler: like, "WHEN?"
Kyberean Wrote:
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> you seem to me like the typical cool
> cat-personality
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> I've decided that I am this, by the way, although
> I am not sure how it fits into Knygatin's
> typology.
Why it's a blasphemy! But each to his own I guess.
asshurbanipal Wrote:
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> According to my last email from Hippocampus "A
> Means to Freedom" is still at the printers, so
> Amazon shouldn't even have it yet to be sold out
> of. I too was doubtful about shipping costs from
> the States, but I found that the ten per cent
> discount offered by Hippocampus for advanced
> orders pretty well cancelled that out. More power
> to their elbows.
Thanks for the update. I thought that that was probably the case. I just have a
> As for Hippocampus Press, I have received my
> HPL/REH Letters set. Hippocampus is a one-man
> operation that runs circles around these other
> guys. His books are on time. He responds to
> email. He is a class-act. If his books are late,
> we are talking one month. Not years and years
> (Nightshade/Wildside Press).
Indeed allowances have to be made.
I stand by my previous naive comment about these guys publishing for 'love not money,' although I will also stand by my believe that the Easter Bunny is alive and well and working in a fish'n'chip shop with Elvis... :)
Roger Wrote:
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> I've gotta say, I have so many things to read,
> more than I can ever find the time for, stacks and
> shelves of books and finding new literary
> interests and pursuits so regularly that I don't
> mind much when a book is delayed, not even if it's
> grand CAS. It allows me to attack the mountainous
> to-read pile.
It's not just me then! I don't like to rush reading CAS and I've still got the whole of the last volume to read. So I'm actually quite relived that vol 5 is delayed...
As for fandom vs lit. crit.... well both have their place on this and other forums, surely! I'm no expert on CAS or many other weird writers in general (being just a dabbler in the dark arts), although I like to think that I'm not wholly ignorant on Lovecraft and his circle, but I'm no expert witness that's for sure. I come here to glean some tasty tibits from the better informed members of this forum (i.e. almost everyone else) and to ask the occasional banal questions on publication dates. Then I sit back with a fat-assed cigar and say 'my work is done' - then relax...
The English Assassin Wrote:
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I'm actually quite relived
> that vol 5 is delayed...
For me it is not an annoyance that indie books get delayed all the time, it's the fear that these series will never be finished.
I am now confident, from Scott's posts here, that CAS will be completed next year.
Weird Works of Robert E. Howard still concerns me. They say they will have another volume out this year, but it has been over 1.5 years since I received the last. Originally they were going to publish one a month. Five years later and we still have two more to go. And the editing of the volumes was done years ago. The only thing left for the final volume is possibly art and an introduction.
As for being a scholarly, stuffy, lit-critic? Hell no! I lean more towards the fan-side of things, yet I tend to prefer work that is well researched with solid references!
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Eldritch Frog Wrote:
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> I'm actually quite relived
> > that vol 5 is delayed...
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> For me it is not an annoyance that indie books get
> delayed all the time, it's the fear that these
> series will never be finished.
>
> I am now confident, from Scott's posts here, that
> CAS will be completed next year.
I never doubted Night Shade Books -- I'm used to delays. What makes me annoyed is publishers who pretend that you don't exist when you ask for a refund (a new experience to me; since late May I've been trying to get a publisher to cough up my refund for a book he won't be publishing, but so far no luck...).
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> Weird Works of Robert E. Howard still concerns me.
> They say they will have another volume out this
> year, but it has been over 1.5 years since I
> received the last. Originally they were going to
> publish one a month. Five years later and we
> still have two more to go. And the editing of the
> volumes was done years ago. The only thing left
> for the final volume is possibly art and an
> introduction.
My concern is, Will they finally ship the books to my new address where I have been living for the past three years...? ;)
Scott Connors Wrote:
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> BTW, Martin, please drop me an email. For some
> reason my ISP isn't delivering messages to yours.
> I'd like copies of the typos you've uncovered,
> please.
>
>
> Scott
Scott, I sent you an update of my typo list (now including vol. 4) on November 15. Did you get it?